On One Hand

July 25, 2005


Filed under: Uncategorized — ononehand @ 11:01 pm

All the kids in Ft. Collins keep telling me, “Boulder is supposedly so liberal, but they’re all really a bunch of conservative rich yuppies.” In some ways the Boulder campus is conservative, with lots of rich elitists, since CU is the flagship school of the state and all and rich people want their kids here first. But I haven’t seen many women casually wandering around topless on the streets of downtown Ft. Collins (Boulder is the only city in CO where that’s legal). I haven’t seen many open fields with 3,000 people smoking pot in Ft. Collins. My case in point, thanks.

Oh, and in spite of the whole Ward Churchill thing and previous low enrollment levels, CU’s out-of-state population actually rose this year. The public’s memory is short, and my school is still a good one. Thanks.

I have a lot of friends in Ft. Collins. My sister will be a freshman at Colorado State next year, and I’m okay with it. A college kid is a college kid, I identify with all of them, and I thought it was just as cool seeing a bunch of CSU Rams stickers in Hawai’i as I would had they all been CU Buff stickers. But come on, people in the Fort, quit dissing my school.



  1. Up here in Michigan, popular knowledge endorses CU as a sweet university. CSU seems pretty unknown.

    I’m still trying to determine how much “The college you go to” matters. I’m trying to hedge those bets– in either case- by going to both Albion, a place I love a lot, and Columbia, a place I know hits those “prestige buttons”. Hurrah for Dual Degrees.

    Comment by erichowens — July 26, 2005 @ 5:49 am | Reply

    • Wow, that’s quite a feat. I wish I could go to two universities. I’d love to go to both CU and CSU, so I could feel connected to my friends at both places, and be a part of both scenes. I hate to miss anything.

      I find that wherever I go, I want to live. (Except Colorado Springs.) I’m one of those can’t-miss-anything people.

      Comment by ononehand — July 26, 2005 @ 6:14 am | Reply

      • Yeah, it was kind of a serendipitous thing to go to Albion, discover I had the option to get my BA there and a BS at any number of huge research universities, within 5 years. But I think CU fits you like a sock as it is. I’m just a nomad.

        And don’t bash Colorado Springs! I used to live there, and I have somewhat fond memories. 😛

        Comment by erichowens — July 26, 2005 @ 6:17 am

      • I’m a nomad too, or at least I want to be. But thanks.

        And everyone has “fond memories” of being age 10 and under. I have fond memories of sunday school. If you were old enough to clearly remember what Colorado Springs is like, you wouldn’t mind me bashing it a little.

        Also, I would to point out that it would be really nice if you hadn’t left, because you’d likely be going in-state for school at CU, and we could have sex whenever we want.

        Comment by ononehand — July 26, 2005 @ 6:42 am

      • Ahh, could’ve/would’ve/should’ves.

        I feel like I’d opt for Colorado College though, anyway. I do have a soft spot for the liberal arts schools.

        But yes, hot Matt sex.

        Comment by erichowens — July 26, 2005 @ 6:46 am

    • i’m from michigan [rochester….30 miles north of detroit] and go to cu….
      no one there has really heard of csu
      but it seems every adult ive spoken to here [in mich] thinks cu is damn good and that boulder is the best place on earth..im not sure how, but many of them have been there.
      and, compared to here, boulder is ridiculously liberal – though more so than cu.

      Comment by volatile_freq — July 26, 2005 @ 7:44 am | Reply

      • Everything’s liberal compared to Oakland County. If frickin’ Hillsdale/Hope/Calvin/Aquinas all merged into one crazy right wing catholic university on the west side of Michigan and made Jerry Falwell chancellor, it’d still be a little more liberal than Oakland County. You kids make me sick1

        (I’m sorry, small outburst. If I hear one more spoiled Albion kid talk about “I live in da real OC, w00t w00t”…)

        Comment by erichowens — July 26, 2005 @ 7:58 am

      • fair enough.

        i spent most of high school being judged by them, so i totally agree.

        dont forget how rich and conceited we are!

        Comment by volatile_freq — July 26, 2005 @ 7:40 pm

      • 🙂

        The nature of my above comment was all tongue in cheek, I meant no ill will.

        You conceited bastard!

        Comment by erichowens — July 26, 2005 @ 7:43 pm

      • I of course meant “christian” or “protestant”, as none of those schools are catholic…

        Comment by erichowens — July 26, 2005 @ 7:59 am

  2. !!!

    You mean I could walk around topless in Boulder and I wouldn’t get arrested???

    That’s amazing.

    Comment by empressme — July 26, 2005 @ 8:04 am | Reply

  3. CU is much more well known, and as it would be, much more diverse than CSU. I think the whole school rivalry thing is pretty stupid, I have since high school. We’re all just people right? Boulder is awesome…never in my life would I have dreamed of seeing a forty year old man dressed in a pink rabbit suit smoking a joint on The Hill. Good times.

    Comment by matthewtroxel — July 26, 2005 @ 1:26 pm | Reply

    • I don’t know if CU is really more diverse… we’re like 6% non-white. But yeah, the rivalry is stupid.

      Comment by Anonymous — July 26, 2005 @ 5:51 pm | Reply

  4. hey there 🙂 just letting you know i added you

    Comment by repair_her — July 26, 2005 @ 1:32 pm | Reply

  5. I dunno – Boulder is pretty yuppie. Granted, Abercrombie and Fitch is shutting down, but so it Penny Lane. And if Boulder was as liberal as its reputation claims, the A&F would have been firebombed before it had a chance to open. I don’t think 3,000 people smoking pot is a sign of the city being liberal, as those 3,000 people could have been all the frat boys from CU organized into one large backwards-white-baseball-cap-wearing session. You also have to account for the huge bar scene, as bars are usually dominated by people who resemble, at best, the cast of Friends. Also, simply because a topless girl is mentionable is indicative of the fact that those things are out of the ordinary in Boulder, whereas in greater places (Nederland) it would be a normal thing.

    My money is on Nederland. If anyone hasn’t been there, they’re only half human.

    Comment by jaredrudolph — July 26, 2005 @ 9:08 pm | Reply

  6. Yeah, I’m pretty convinced Boulder is dominated by hippy-disguised, rich, conservative people. Where else can you find people who wear crocs and rags and drive BMW X5s (you know, for the mountains)?
    Anywho…yeah, it was hard enough to get into college and stay there considering it’s so damn expensive and a whole lot of other reasons. So quit dissin’
    Matt, you rock. See you when I get back from the dreaded OC (yes, it really is that bad. I’m dying, people). -Crys.

    Comment by Anonymous — July 26, 2005 @ 10:44 pm | Reply

  7. Just thought I would say hey… you should IM me or send me a message some time if you like…

    Comment by glryx — July 28, 2005 @ 7:23 am | Reply

    • can’t find your s/n on your userinfo page… you IM me first, I’m online now. Ituzzip.

      Comment by ononehand — July 28, 2005 @ 7:25 am | Reply

  8. Yeah, they do have good cheap food there. I’m a sucker for cheap food.

    Comment by ononehand — July 28, 2005 @ 7:25 am | Reply

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